When Taylor Swift joined Travis Kelce and Jason Kelce on the New Heights podcast, we expected to learn a lot about The Life of a Showgirl, and we did. But we learned even more about the relationship dynamic between Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift, including what they talked about on their first date and the green flags they see in each other.

Swift’s episode of the “New Heights” podcast premiered at 7 p.m. Eastern. It is available to stream in full on YouTube. Fans who prefer to listen to the show instead can do so via most podcast-streaming platforms: Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Audible, Spotify and Wondery, which produces the show.